Johannes Oosthuizen (1648-1682) [REJECTED]
30 Maart 1648 – 25 Oktober 1682 · Oosthuizen line
Verbinding met die Koup
Het in 'n huishouding op hierdie grond ingetrou: Catrina Bouwmans [REJECTED] (1667-06-28).
- gebeurtenis Two Dutch baptisms are tested against the children, and both fail1675-03-31
Name
- Baptismal name
- Johannes
- Given
- Johannes
- Surname
- Oosthuizen
The formal baptismal name and the name a person was actually called are both kept, and neither is derived from the other. Spelling drift between records is evidence, not noise.
Naaste familie
- Father
- Jeurjen or Jurrien Oosthuijs
- Mother
- Grietje Jansdr Hefsaet
- Married
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- 1649Catrina Bouwmans [REJECTED] 28 Junie 1667
- ·Mayke
- ·Antonette
- Children
- Geertruij Oosthuizen
'n Lewe in die rekord
- 30 Maart 1648 gebore Born
- 28 Junie 1667 getroud Married Catrina Bouwmans [REJECTED]
- 31 Maart 1675 gebeurtenis Two Dutch baptisms are tested against the children, and both fail
- 25 Oktober 1682 oorlede Died
Stories
- mentioned Die monsterrol
Wat ons nie weet nie
- Geen gedateerde rekord bind hierdie mens aan 'n bepaalde stuk grond nie.
A sourced gap beats an unsourced fill. These are the open questions on this person, stated rather than papered over.
Bronne
- Baptism of Johannes, son of Johannes Oosthuysen and Antonette de Rede - Leiden, 31 March 1675 Erfgoed Leiden en Omstreken, Doop-, trouw-, begraaf- en geboorteboeken Leiden (DTB Leiden)DTB Leiden, Deel 239, 31 March 1675
Navorsingsnotas
A DISPUTED CLAIM, RECORDED SO THE DISAGREEMENT IS VISIBLE - not accepted. Frans's full tree makes him the FATHER of the stamvader: born 30 March 1648 at GRIJPSKERKE, ZEELAND, married Catrina Bouwmans at AMSTERDAM 28 June 1667, died at the Cape 25 October 1682. IF TRUE it would mean the family was already at the Cape three years before the muster roll, and the whole Woerden/Werden story belongs to somebody else. THREE REASONS TO DOUBT IT: (1) it contradicts every published account, which treats the 1685 man as the progenitor with no Cape father; (2) a son born 1672 in Amsterdam whose father died at the Cape in 1682 would have had to be back in the Netherlands to enlist at Woerden in 1685 - possible, but it is doing a lot of work; (3) the GRIJPSKERKE looks like it may have migrated from the STAMMOEDER's reported origin, Grypskerk in Groningen [SRC-097]. Needs a Cape death record for 1682 and a Grijpskerke or Amsterdam baptism to stand up. [TO VERIFY] UPDATE 29 Jul 2026 - NOW REJECTED, not merely disputed. The Amsterdam baptism this claim rests on [SRC-101] gives the child's father as Johannes and his mother as Catrina Bouwmans. If that child were our stamvader, the vernoemingspatroon would have made his first son JOHANNES and his second daughter CATRINA. They are GERHARDUS and BARBARA. The same test kills the rival Leiden candidate [SRC-102], whose mother is Antonette de Rede. The row stays as a tombstone so the reasoning is visible and nobody re-imports the claim from the tree.
These are working notes, not finished prose: they carry the reasoning, the corrections and the things still marked to verify. They are kept here so the page itself can read as what is known.
Die werksnotas op hierdie werf word in Engels gehou en word nie vertaal nie. Hulle verander met elke navorsingsessie, en 'n vertaling sou uit pas raak met die oorspronklike. Alles anders — die stories, die getranskribeerde dokumente en die koppelvlak — is in Afrikaans.
Oop vrae
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Is the stamvader in this model twice - PER-000296 and PER-000559?
prioriteit 1 · LEAD-0113
PER-000296 Johannes "Jan" Oosthuijsz (stamvader) and PER-000559 Johannes Oosthuizen share an identical death date, share a wife, and one of them is the recorded father of the other's son. Are they one man, and if so which FamilySearch profile survives - LCJN-657 or GW32-G7M?
Wat dit sou uitmaak Either FamilySearch merges them, or one profile turns out to hold a source the other does not and they are two men.
Elders
FamilySearch-profiel LVZR-BHH